Saturday, February 24, 2007

The HPV Vaccine-- What They Don't Want You To Know


Before I begin, let me first say that I am not a doctor, nor am I an employee of a rival pharmaceutical company. I’m a mom to two young girls, determined to do whatever I can to ensure their safety. When it comes to Big Pharma I am an admitted cynic. With the push (temporarily abandoned) to mandate the Gardasil vaccine, I felt it was my duty to my kids to check out the claims concerning the new HPV – human papilloma virus- vaccine. The following represents a portion of what I found with just a bit of research.

There are, depending upon the source, anywhere between 120 and 300 strains of HPV. Of these, there are 15 strains of the cancer causing type. Merck’s vaccine, Gardasil, targets 4 strains of HPV, two that are the cancer causing type—HPV types 16 and 18, and two targeted strains that cause genital warts. So out of the 15 strains that can cause cancer, the vaccine only protects against two… does that seem like good odds to you?

I then moved on to read the patient insert which is available through the FDA and Merck websites. In its own literature Merck states, “Cervical cancer prevention focuses on routine screening and early intervention. This strategy has reduced cervical cancer rates by 75% in compliant individuals by monitoring and removing pre-malignant dysplastic lesions.” Okay Merck, why then do we need to buy this vaccine if our daughters can avoid cervical cancer by getting yearly pap smears and having any abnormal cells frozen off?

The theory behind mandated vaccination is to prevent highly communicable and potentially fatal diseases like diphtheria, whooping cough, measles and small pox from decimating the population, or at the very least, from reaching pandemic proportions. HPV is a sexually transmitted disease. It is not airborne. It cannot be transmitted through casual contact. If a young woman is sexually active, why not just advocate the use of a condom which would protect her from STD’s as well as unwanted pregnancy?

Additionally, Gardasil, much like the varicella vaccine given for chicken pox, only provides peak protection for approximately 5 years before it begins to lose its effectiveness. It typically takes 10 to 15 years for HPV to develop into cancer with most women developing cervical cancer in their 40’s. Remember, the girls in the targeted range for this vaccine are 9-12 year olds. A nine year old receiving this vaccine would be effectively shielded for five years, until the age of fourteen. If that girl is then exposed to the virus, say at the age of seventeen, when she is most at risk of contracting a sexually transmitted disease, the vaccine will be beyond peak protection and offer little, if any, shield against the virus. Will this young girl, operating under a false sense of security, be less likely to have the yearly Pap smear that could detect abnormal cell growth?

And then, consider this—the HPV vaccine is the first vaccine to use a genetically modified live cancer virus. Making matters worse, this drug, tested on 20,000 16-26 year old women, was never tested for efficacy in individuals within the targeted age range of 9-12 year olds. Added to this is the fact that this 20,000 person test group was about half the size of the test groups used to demonstrate safety of other vaccines, like Prevnar, the vaccine used to prevent ear infections.

And then there are the side effects. Since being introduced in June 2006 there have been 385 side effects serious enough to be reported to VAERS (the federal Vaccine Adverse Reporting System). There are experts who estimate that fewer than 10% of adverse events occurring after the use of a prescription drug or vaccine are ever reported to this governmental reporting system. You do the math. If only 10% were reported there could have been as many as 3,800 adverse reactions within the first six months of use that were never reported. Of the 385 adverse events, two-thirds required additional medical care with one-third in children 16 and under. The Center for Disease Control is reporting side-effects involving massive auto-immune responses. Medical News Today quotes NVIC ( National Vaccine Information Center, a vaccine watch-dog group) President Barbara Loe Fisher, “ Because Merck only studied Gardasil in fewer than 1,200 girls under the age of 16… it is critical that doctors and parents be made aware of the nature of the initial adverse events reports… There are twice as many children collapsing and four times as many children experience tingling and numbness [as those receiving the DTaP]. There have been reports of facial paralysis and Guillain-Barre Syndrome. Any doctors who give Gardasil in combination with other vaccines (other than Hepatitis B) are basically conducting experiments on their young patients…”

Fainting episodes are so common that doctors are now being advised to inoculate their patients while they are lying down. “About 4 reports per day were filed with VAERS in December 2006 for the HPV vaccine,” said NVIC Health Policy Analyst Vicky Debold R.N. PhD, as quoted in Medical News Today. “Some of these girls are getting injured when they collapse after receiving the vaccine and others are complaining of neurological symptoms that should not be ignored… To avoid unnecessary injuries, teenage girls should be vaccinated lying down, not be left unattended, and probably should not walk or drive themselves home from the doctor’s office after they get vaccinated. “

Medical News Today also reports that in a May 18, 2006 report, the FDA staff stated that Merck clinical trial data indicated “…a potential for Gardasil to enhance cervical disease in subjects who had evidence of persistent infection with relevant HPV types prior to vaccination.” Young girls and women now receiving the vaccine are not tested for active HPV infection before vaccination thereby leaving them vulnerable to the vaccine actually causing them to develop cancer.

Barbara Loe Fisher articulates the concerns regarding this vaccine, “How many girls are really having short-term health problems associated with this vaccine that could turn into long-term neurological or immune system disorders? And how many will go on to develop fertility problems, cancer, or damage to their genes, all of which Merck admits in its product insert that it has not studied at all? We just don’t know enough to be mandating Gardasil for anyone, much less 11 to 12 year old girls entering puberty.”

So let’s review, Gardasil doesn’t offer long-term cervical cancer protection, it doesn’t protect against all the cancer causing HPV strains, it has potentially serious side-effects, it could actually increase the incidence of cervical cancer in certain instances, and no one knows whether there will be long-term neurological or genetic damage as a result of being vaccinated.

If all of that doesn’t make you think twice, do a Google search of the bill Senator Bill Frist sponsored, nick-named “Bioshield Two”, that effectively stripped the public of its right to sue the manufacturer of a mandated vaccine. If you knew that a car manufacturer could never be sued for allowing serious safety defects would you purchase one of their cars? Will you let a pharmaceutical company convince you to inject your daughters with a genetically modified live cancer virus knowing that the company has little legal incentive, if the vaccine becomes mandated, to guarantee the safety of your child??? For me, the answer is easy…

Other sources of interest:

Cancer Virus Vaccine Targets Wrong Age Group - Washington Times

Merck's Gardasil Vaccine Not Proven Safe For Little Girls

Merck and FDA "Not Completely Honest"

E

58 Comments:

Mother Marlene said...

This is going to give me nightmares tonight. I have a 17 yr old daughter who has had the first 2 out of 3 shots. She will be reading this tomorrow. Then there will be discussion with the doctor to see what extent his knowlege on the side effects are.
Like lambs led to slaughter.

Women on the Verge said...

mother m-

I debated with myself for a long time whether to post this...I finally decided to go ahead because I felt that parents weren't being given an accurate appraisal of the vaccine. My sense is that your daughter is one of the lucky ones who had no serious side effects after receiving the shot, and at least she's in the age range that was tested for safety and effectiveness... try to hold on to that. Most of the more serious reactions appear to be taking place within the first 30 days or so... it is extremely important though that she be using some form of birth control because in some pregnancies occuring during the clinical trials the babies had genetic defects if they were conceived within that 30 day window ( there were none in the group using the placebo).

Unfortunately, it may end up that you will be educating your doctor about the vaccine. I know that when I called my pediatrician he'd just placed an order...

I'll be thinking of you and your daughter.

E

TomCat said...

Ethel, before I read this I was a Gardasil supporter. I even praised Texas' GOP governor for mandating it. :-(

Now I understand the GOP support: enrichment of Big Pharma at public expense, and screw the patients.

Housewife said...

Where is your information coming from?

Would you mind putting up a few links?

I'd really like to read more for myself and I'm not finding the same things that you are.

Many thanks for alerting us to this very important subject.

Women on the Verge said...

tomcat-

Unfortunately, I think that's exactly what's happening... they've got to keep those stockholders happy who lost their shirts with the Vioxx debacle. And when you look up Bioshield ( which DID pass) it becomes that much more terrifying.

housewife-

I'm glad you're not going to simply take my word :-) !!

I've tried to provide some of the sources, but couldn't get all to work. If you Google "VAERS HPV alerts" you should be able to read the actual incident reports ( CDC now indicates over 500 as of yesterday).

The other thing that is interesting to note is that with the meningicoccal vaccine CDC issued a warning after 5 incidents of Guillane-Barre Syndrome. In the 6 months gardasil has been used there have already been at least 3... and the men. vaccine had been out a lot longer before those five incidents occured...

I also urge you to Google the Merck Pregnancy Registery for Gardasil.

Ethel

Women on the Verge said...

All--

If you look at the patient insert there are actually 15 pages... for some reason the link only shows the first 3.. Google Gardasil patient insert for the full 15 pages.

E

Not Your Mama said...

I'm with Tomcat on this, great post and I'm very glad you decided to put it out there.

You've raised valid points and I will look it up. I was supportive of the vaccine but if the info is as you say...I'm always happy to change my position if the facts warrant it.

Housewife said...

I think that many of your points are valid.

I'm aware it's a blog and not a medical newsletter though so I thank you for saving me time and referencing your info.

I think that some of the sites are kneejerk and will oppose any and all vaccines that are proposed which terrifies me in the other direction.

That being said, the middle doesn't typically get much in the way of media ratings....

I suspect I have more information to gather before I let a needle near my daughter.

The one thing that is worth noting is that pap smears reduce cancer mortality rates by 75%. 25% is NOT acceptable, it's just a beginning.

Let's not choose apathy over Pharma.

I still need more info. I'm finding myself very interested in this topic.

Thanks for the thoughtful post.

Anonymous said...

Ethel,

I’m glad to see that someone is trying to make sure parents have all the information they need to make wise decisions regarding their children’s safety. Since we live in Texas, my daughter is subject to Gov. Perry’s “back-room” decision to mandate this vaccine. After hearing that members of his own administration were aghast at the Gov’s decision to force this vaccine so quickly, I did a little research of my own. Being a member of the health care industry, the first place I checked was the FDA website. I’d like to point your readers to a few documents. The first is the full version of the Gardasil package insert which talks about the birth defects detected in babies conceived within 30-days after vaccination and mentions the “Gardasil Pregnancy Registry”. While Merck would probably like you to believe this is normal practice, please do a little searching of your own and see how few of these “Pregnancy registries” you can find.

http://www.fda.gov/cber/label/hpvmer013007LB.pdf

According to the FDA, “a Pregnancy Registry is a surveillance study that enrolls pregnant women after they have been taking medicine and before the birth of the baby. Babies born to women taking a particular medicine are compared with babies of women not taking the medicine. Evaluation of a large number of pregnancies is needed to determine the effect of the medicine on the babies.” I remind you that the ability of thalidomide to cause birth defects was not discovered until the drug was in wide spread use in the 1950’s and 60’s and a spike in the number of “flipper” babies became obvious in the general population.

http://www.fda.gov/womens/registries/general.html

So I have to ask, if Merck was really convinced that the birth defects seen in their clinical trials were not due to their drug, then why in May of 2006 did they “volunteer” to host a pregnancy registry during one of their meetings with the FDA (slide 97 in the following);

http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/ac/06/slides/2006-4222S-1_files/frame.htm#slide0210.htm

In addition I ask, why did Merck set up a “sentinel” program to evaluate long-term safety in advance of the “general population” (slide 82 in the above link) with the complete analysis planned to be available in Spring 2007 (slide 102), but then lobby for widespread use of the vaccine before any of this important safety data is available????????

I could go on, however instead I urge any parent considering this vaccine to do some careful reading of his or her own.

Women on the Verge said...

housewife-

I appreciate your response... I would like to point out that the NVIC , though admittedly a "watchdog" group, does not routinely oppose all vaccines... they hold the manufacturers accountable, they do not want to throw us back into the Dark Ages.

Even if you discount the information from that site, there is a wealth of troubling information from the CDC, VAERS, and Merck itself. Were you able to read through the VAERS site? I applaud your decision to continue your research before deciding whether to vaccinate your daughter. And I agree, apathy is simply NOT a choice in this, or any matter of importance.

Also-- I highly recommend the FDA sites listed by anonymous... the slides referenced are those used by Merck when presenting to the FDA for vaccine approval. It's interesting to note that Merck had asked for approval for girls AND boys to receive the vaccine, but were only approved for girls... why???

E

Women on the Verge said...

anon-

Thank you for the information... I LOVE primary sources!!

I've been following your governor's decision to mandate this vaccine with horror. Even the president of the Academy of Pediatrics is now coming out and saying that it's simply too early to mandate this drug... that not enough is known. The backroom bargaining and undue influence happening in Texas is a symptom of a much larger problem. It is simply incomprehensible to me that Governor Perry's former chief of staff can now appeal to him as Merck's lobbying spokesperson... it becomes downright incestuous. As with many other facets of our government, large corporations have entirely too much influence on policy decisions...

E

RUTH said...

This is a brilliant post. Well done for highlighting it. I haven't heard of this vaccine being given routinely in England but good to read all this info. Thanks.

Women on the Verge said...

I have three boys, so I was not very well informed on this subject. I was discussing it with my sister in law yesterday (she has a teenage daughter) and she had declined to have her daughter vaccinated, citing much of same research as Ethel.

She is concerned about the looming probability that this will become a required vaccine. All of this leads me to what seems an obvious question, alluded to by Ethel:

The vaccines our children are required to receive at this point are all to prevent contagious diseases of various degrees of seriousness. This vaccine, while well intentioned (or so the pharma companies want you to think) is to prevent a non contagious disease. So why mandate it? And with the very limited scope of "protection" and limited studies of long term effects, this seems a long way from being a choice that informed parents will want to subject their daughters to.

L

Anonymous said...

In your blog you suggest that STDs can be avoided by use of a condom. While a condom can help in the prevention, breakage, improper use, etc. can make it less effective. Genital warts and HPV are transmitted through skin-to-skin contact. Thus, areas of skin uncovered by the condom are susceptible to transmission. Certainly, the use of a condom is a smart and responsible thing to do but it should never be condidered 100% effective.

Women on the Verge said...

Anonymous-

Thank you for your comment :-)

True, no form of birth control, other than swearing off any sexual contact completely, should ever be considered a "sure thing" in preventing std's or pregnancy... condoms can break or become perforated, and even birth control pills aren't 100% effective. However, my point in the post wasn't so much to do with condom use , but rather the risks of the HPV vaccine.

E

Housewife said...

I finked out on this.

I'm making my Uncle do the research for me. He's an oncologist.

This is truly exhausting, reading through pages and pages of med-speak.

Every half hour I'm popping my head up and saying, "YES! Eve needs that vaccine!"

And then I read more and declare, "NO!!! Eve can't have that!"

It's very confusing.

I have a few years to decide...

I'm sure I'll need each and every second of it.

Gene Bach said...

Interesting. No way is that garbage coming anywhere near my daughters. Sounds like a great case of legalized human experimentation.

Women on the Verge said...

housewife-

It was indeed exhausting doing the research... thankfully I have a sister who is a research scientist who was able to "spot me" for accuracy. I don't know if this will help, but after looking at the research she said there was no way she was letting anyone get near her children with that vaccine. I'm glad you're doing the research... or at least having your uncle do it for you ;-)

gene-

That was exactly my reaction when I started looking into this. Merck has a lousy history to begin with which is what spurred me on to look into this.

Considering the horrendous side-effects, and the fact that cervical cancer accounts for .007% of cancers in women yearly... vaccinating with Gardasil seems to me to be the equivalent of using a cannon to kill a fly... there's got to be a better, more effective way... like yearly pap smears perhaps...

I'm glad you won't let them near your girls!!

E

E

MichaelBains said...

This vaccine ...is to prevent a non contagious disease.

This IS a great and important post and I think you did great with it. Especially in the comments section!

The only reason I quoted the above is because it is more accurate to say that the vaccine would target a Contagious cause of cancer: HPV. It's meant to incidentally lower the risk of cancer by, as you've said, preventing the acquisition of a viral STD.

None-the-less, I need to talk with my step-daughter's mom about it again. The last we spoke, she wasn't sure but was thinking she'd get our wee 13 yo the vaccine if the Doc offers it. At the time (a couple o' months ago) I was in total agreement. Now I'm far less sure.

Thanks E!

Women on the Verge said...

mbaines-

Thank you for a great comment... you are absolutely correct :-)

I think that what Lucy was referring to in the quote you referenced was that HPV is not a highly contagious/transmissable disease... unlike those which are airborne, with HPV you need skin to skin contact. Usually "herd-vaccines" are meant for those highly contagious diseases that could move rapidly through a population,like smallpox did, and like Avian Flu has the potential to do if it ever mutates into a highly pathenogenic strain effecting humans. Because HPV is a sexually tranmitted disease it doesn't carry that same potential .

I hope you'll take a look at the references and do some poking about yourself before you and your wife make the decision whether or not to vaccinate... with all the controvery swirling about, at least it might help answer any doubts you might have.

Good luck!

Ethel

Mando Mama said...

E,
I am really glad you posted this, and feel fortunate that I saw it. It's well written and researched and drives home some pretty critical points about the Gardasil vaccine that are going unnoticed and undiscussed. Having fallen prey to that unsuspecting HPV -- I was SO skeeved, having had TWO, TWO intimate relationships in 17 YEARS, my ex husband and the person that followed him a couple years down the road -- and having gone through the LEEP procedure, I have been a staunch cheerleader for the Gardasil camp. The whole thing was so frightening -- I never imagined I would run any risk of dying of any type of cancer, especially not with two young children. But this information is stunning, and stops my tirade in its tracks.

On the flip side, what sucks is that there is no test or vaccine for men, and unless the HPV is a variety that causes external symptoms, like warts, there's no indication it may be lurking until a Pap reveals dysplasia. It's so common that insurance companies don't even blink anymore. Just another curse against womankind.
So the whole situation is very frustrating. But I'm really grateful for this piece, it's excellently done.

MM

Women on the Verge said...

mama--

Thank you so much for the kind words.

First off-- I'm very sorry that you've had to go through that. I had a close friend years ago who had to go through that procedure a few times. She said it was NO FUN.

The fact is, that Merck even states in its paperwork that this will offer no real defense because men will still carry the disease. That's why they had asked to be cleared for both sexes. The fact that they were only approved for females makes me wonder what the heck they found it did to the males... 0 sperm counts??? Mutated sperm???

And it is very common. I just read that there are 20 million cases of HPV per year. The doc in the article said that most resolve on their own with the person unharmed. Of the small, comparatively speaking, number who do need help, a smaller percentage go on to develop c. cancer. When you stop to consider that out of 20 million HPV infections yearly, it causes approx 3,400 deaths from cervical cancer yearly... and that we don't know if those women were getting their yearly pap smears... it really stops you in your tracks. We need to stop and ask, is the vaccine worth the risk ?

Good luck and thanks for the great comment!!

Ethel

Not Your Mama said...

Ok, I've read and read as much as I can stand to for the moment and I'm going to have to go with....yes, it needs to be mandatory but as I origianally had stated, with a simple opt out.

True we don't know what possible side effects there might be in the very long term, there isn't any way to know something like that at this point. We don't know what if any very long term effects there could be for most existing vaccines either.

Looking at the short term reactions that have been reported thus far, there is a higher risk of serious side effects from the MMR.

All of that aside, the main reason I vote for the mandate is funding. Without a mandate government has no obligation to provide access to citizens who are unable to afford this and are not covered by insurance. Considering those are the groups that are most affected by cervical cancer, women unable to afford the cost of regular screening and treatment, we would once again be penalizing the most vulnerable portion of our population. I can't accept that.

Anyone should be able to opt out with a simple signature for free. Mandating is the only way to insure anyone can opt in regardless of financial status.

Women on the Verge said...

mama--

For as long as Lucy and I have been blogging, I've been a big fan of yours. One of the things I love most about you is your unswerving championing of those in our world who are less fortunate... a quality that the world could definitely use more of. I've thought about your reasoning for feeling the vaccine should be mandated and I understand where you're coming from. I just wonder whether there might be a better way... the majority of HPV cancer related deaths worldwide do tend to occur in the portion of the population that does not have consistent access to preventative healthcare. In our own country there is a larger percentage than there should be of people without health insurance. Rather than mandating the vaccine-- the most expensive vaccine to ever be marketed in the U.S.-- I'd rather see a mandate that women without health insurance be provided free PAP smears and yearly gynecological exams. I think this would be more cost-effective and offer less risk than a vaccine that carries unknown longterm risk and the possibility of birth defects. As far as opting out I think the case could be made that again, it would be biased against those less educated... I worry that an immigrant, with imperfect grasp of the language, will be as able to read the material and make an informed choice... what about the high school drop-out, will she be as well-equipped to make that choice for herself and her children...

My other big concern regarding mandating this vaccine has to do with the Bioshield law. Although it was initially intended to protect Big Pharma from lawsuits should they ever have to produce a drug quickly due to a biological attack or threat, the wording is very ambiguous. It basically leaves the determination of what constitutes a threat up to the Health and Human Services Director.. a government appointee. That makes me nervous. We've already seen the kind of influence exerted on government by Big Pharma in Texas... can we trust the government... especially this government... not to fold under the same pressure?

I've said it before and I'll say it again, I think you're an amazing woman and an excellent writer... and I would jump at the chance to have a cup of coffee with you :-) ... love you mama!!

Ethel

Flimsy Sanity said...

Thanks for the interesting synopsis. Merck has to pay for Vioxx lawsuits and I think this was priced appropriately. They have shown that they care less about safety than profit - what has changed?

Women on the Verge said...

flimsy sanity-

Yep...Once all the research was done, I'm afraid that was my take too...

E

Not Your Mama said...

I just wonder whether there might be a better way

Yes, of course there are better ways including the one you brought up. IF there is a reasonable chance of pushing through something of that nature (free screening and treatment) I'll cheerfully support that in lieu of mandatory vaccines.

As things stand right now a lot depends on where a woman lives. In most of California or Washington, etc. not a big issue. If she lives in a place like Nevada, or one of the southern states...she's screwed. It's been left to individual states to deal with and as usual some have risen to the challenge but many have ignored it completely. If that can be corrected, it has my vote.

PS: thanks for the love, it's mutual. I don't get hysterical over differing opinions when they have valid points, yours do.

My own son-in-law suffered complete pancreatic failure after mandatory military vaccination for Anthrax. He is far from the only one who had this or other serious "side effects". The military has since discontinued use of this vaccine.

He was in perfect health, 21 years old with NO family history of diabetes or any other disorders and he is now an insulin dependant diabetic. So yes, I can see both sides of this question.

Women on the Verge said...

Oh mama... I'm so sorry about your son-in-law... I lay awake nights worrying about my husband and those damn vaccines... he's in the military as well. He got pretty sick from that cocktail of shots, but not as sick as your son-in-law. Several guys in his unit didn't fare as well though and are facing some pretty grim results. And to make things worse, I believe the military had only put a temporary stop on the Anthrax... the program is back up and running again... a unit here getting ready to go to Afghanistan just started their series of shots :-(
I will double check though, just to be sure.


E

Women on the Verge said...

Just checked. The military is mandating the anthrax vaccine again.

E

Mother Marlene said...

...great...my ex is heading to Afghanistan...

tuco said...

Thanks for the info. I have a friend who's daughter died from grand mal seizures brought on by the Dtap. We were hesitant to vaccinate for many reasons and then on my sons 4th dtap shot he started having ocular seizures. I will be sure to research this before my daughter is of the recommended age.
When we have talked to Dr's about our concerns we have been told "We herd immunize"...

Anonymous said...

Wow, this truly is scary. It's hard not to think of novels like the Constant Gardener.

This is absolutely the stuff of which nightmares are made.

Shadow/J

Women on the Verge said...

anon-

It truly is the stuff of nightmares... I just keep hoping we'll "wake up" before it's too late...

Ethel

Jales said...

This is the best write up on the vaccine. I'd already decided that my child isn't getting the vaccine and I'd return to homeschooling in protest. Quite frankly, if you have to go into yearly pap smears anyhow, I'd rather her go that route with 0 side effects than take a vaccine that doesn't offer much more protection and risk future side effects. Either way you're gonna be up in the stirrups, so why risk it? I myself had to go through the LEEP procedure many years ago. So knowing everything related, I definitely vote against it. I know this is an old post, but just really wanted to let you know how much I appreciate you going to so much effort for those of us who don't know every place to look.

Women on the Verge said...

jales-

Thank you sooo much! It was a lot of work, but well worth it if it helps people to understand the risks of this vaccine.

I have family in Texas with young girls and they've said they will flat-out refuse letting anyone inject their girls with this stuff... especially considering it only protects for 5 years.

Ethel

Anonymous said...

thanks for all this great info . im 14 and i have gotton the first shot my mom insists that i have to get the other 2 she tthinks that doctors know everything. how can i pruve to her this vaccination is rlly nt safe? thanxx.

Women on the Verge said...

anonymous-

Being a mom myself I'm sure your mom is doing what she believes to be best for you... she wants to keep you safe in any way that she can. I also want to let you know that if you've already had one shot without side effects you probably won't have any in the future. AND you're in the age range that the drug was tested on for safety... so please try not to worry.


My best advice is to try to calmly talk to her about your concerns. Show her the research. Show her the patient information leaflet that comes with Vioxx-- I've provided a link to it, or you can google it. You could also try printing off the articles I used to help your mom understand your concerns. Many of the comments here also provide some great information. In other words, do the research and discuss what you found with your mom-- hopefully she'll be impressed by the mature way you're handling this and you'll both be able to make a decision about what's best for you using all your information.

Good luck and let me know how it all works out!!

E

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